Name :   Kathy Dopp Organization :   National Election Data Archive Post Date :   9/30/2005 Section Comments Section :   A1D Page no. :   D-6 Line no.:   15 - 19 Comment :   RE: Appendix D (your comment form does not permit Section: Appendix D or Section: D-1 to be entered) Why "(albeit loosely)"?   Optical scan voting systems most definitely "produce a record that the voter verifies directly with the voter's senses which is preserved for auditing or counting".  Because optical scan ballots use a bar-code there are two records on the same ballot and the electronic counts can be verified "independently" of any insiders within the voting system.